Before getting into a recap on yesterday, the main news is that there is supposed to be a press release this week from the OceanX team on their findings - (not a press conference) as some have wrongly suggested. Also a source close to the crew yesterday suggested that the news coming soon would be in his words – “AMAZING”.
There has been no mainstream coverage at all since the new mission started, however there may be a media embargo enforced at present by the Swedish TV channel that has part-funded the operating costs of the mission. If a reporting embargo is in force, then there may be a co-ordinated release of information among many mainstream outlets, but this possibility remains to be seen.
Yesterday, the OceanX team made an unexpected trip back to shore to stock up on more supplies before resuming their adventure. A local Swedish man (Morgan Andersson) who has been following the exploits on Facebook and lives nearby, came accross the ship “Ancylus” docked in Norrtälje harbour.
The ship Ancylus docked in Norrtälje harbour yesterday.
The photo (which looks like it was taken on a smartphone) shows the vessel docked with equipment nearby. The ship was apparently awaiting the arrival of another diesel supply ship for in order to refuel – meanwhile the crew of the Ancylus took advantage of their time ashore and headed off to the pub.
According to Andersson, he spent time chatting with some of the crew who seemed glad to be back on dry land for a while. On hearing the news, frenzied Facebook users encouraged him to find out as much as he could, and so after talking with various crew members it became obvious that they were not up for talking about what they had found.
Interested individuals chatting beside the ship Ancylus..
The team’s website has been close to useless where updates are concerned, with many people resorting to contacting the TV documentary offices out of frustration in an effort to find out more.
Meanwhile the group’s Facebook page went into meltdown overnight as it’s membership surged by a few thousand people. Frustratingly, the rapid influx of newbies making pointless postings and going over old ground has derailed what was a very cohesive group. The newbies were also joined by a seemingly endless procession of trolls peddling incorrect information from various blogs looking for sensationalist headlines.
Although there is a great deal of frustration at present among people desperate to know what the object is, it is widely thought that the team want to properly and scientifically document what they have found before any announcement is made.
The facts again.
- There are THREE objects of interest – the main circular anomaly, a smaller secondary object like a “Gothic church window” 200 metres away and a 90ft high and 900ft wide rock outcrop with a crack running through it some 1500 metres South. The team have stated they are not really interested in the second anomaly, although the reason for this is unclear, given that it may be a fragment of the main anomaly that broke off on impact.
- The objects lie in 80-85 metres depth of water.
- Visibility is 2-3 feet maximum.
- The object is 60 metres (approx 200ft wide) roughly equivalent to the wingspan of Boeing 747.
- The main circular anomaly is not a rock formation.
- Russian and US Navy ships are NOT looking for the object, nor are they blocking the OceanX team – this is unsubstantiated rumour. The annual BALTOPS operation has nothing to do with the OceanX exploration.
If you want to keep up to date on events as they happen then the best source of information is the OceanX Facebook page.
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Bravo bravo…
Well, one can only wonder what can be considered amazing by a experienced diver. I am just hoping that is something completely mind boggling. And also hoping not to be dissapointed at the end after all this secrecy.
Great reporting!
Lets keep our hopes high that they have found something truly amazing that will answer our greatest question. Have we been visited?
How sure are we about the “200 feet in diameter” point.
The reason I ask is that the scale of the object doesn’t seem to match 200 feet – it looks much closer to 100 feet.
It seems like some of the websites reported the object as being 100 feet (or about 30 meters) in diameter initially. Then the size was reported as about 200 feet in diameter.
If you look at pictures that show both the first and second objects together in the same frame, and claim that they are 600 feet apart, the scale of these pictures would indicate that the first object actually has a diameter of about 100 feet – not 200 feet (which would be 1/3 the distance between the two objects). The diameter seems to be about 1/6th the distance between the two objects. Either the two objects are further than 600 feet apart, or the disc is not 200 feet in diameter.
If the first object is 100 feet in diameter, then it seems possible that it’s the Novgorod – a round Russian warhip. I see the argument shot down frequently based on the fact that the disc is too large – but if the disc is the right size, it seems to me like a plausible explaination.
The Novgorod was known to have been scrapped before WWI – but I haven’t seen any details about the scrapping process that was used on this ship. My guess is it wouldn’t be like scrapping a steel ship today – much of the ship (which would have been around 50 years old at the time) would be junk (old wood and iron cladding) – I would think that “scrapping” would be taking whatever had any value and sinking the rest.
Interesting idea Tom and you have a point about the measurements. My guess was that it was a ancient super gallery like that of Caligula but from what I understand they were mainly constructed out of wood so I think you have a much better suggestion.
I don’t think it’s Novgorod…
“A second and larger “Popoffka” — as the Tsar dubbed the round vessels — followed in 1867, and was called Rear Admiral Popov in honor of its inventor. This was but a repeat of the Novgorod’s features on a larger scale.
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The two Popoffkas saw action in the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78, in which they served with the Danube flotilla. During this time they proved untenable ships, pitching intolerably in the slightest chop and rendering their crews seasick. They were towed into action stern-first. Due to undesired rotational motion, they never achieved more than a fraction of their design speed in practice. Aside from infrequent target practice, they spent most of their service life tied up at base. Decommissioned in 1903, they served as store-ships for another decade. Both were scrapped in 1912.”
Surce: http://www.cityofart.net/bship/ru_novgorod.html
Yes but what was scrapped, the whole ship or what was on the top ? Looking at the picture though it doesn’t look like either from the top but with the rudder housing removed maybe although hulls don’t usually crack in such ways. These two boats were supposed to be used in the black sea so if they were scrapped elsewhere it remains to be seen.
There is also another round ship built on similar designs named the Lavadia which was a yacht of the House of Romanov and was reported to still be floating in the 1930′s after being decommissioned. It is still unclear if there was any of there boats in the Baltic and what scrapping methods were used. If one of these ships made it there and was sunk it is likely it would have flipped while under water and may have ended upside down and left debris in the surrounding area.
There still is no clear record on the scrapping procedure and were these boats were taken other then within the Black Sea. Perhaps the Nazi’s had another secret weapon. The bigger mystery to me is why they want to wait a week to update this after leaving us on our seats, I don’t sea how marveling the public is going to make any difference scince the media coverage is bleak. This reminds me of the Mars rock story and how things worked out but maybe Ocean x is just being careful.
There’s nothing down there worth all this excitement and expense.
You’ll see shortly.
Well ok maybe not ,but whatever it is
its intresting , its manufactured so MAYBE ITS HITLERS junk , but sure
nazi moved 40000 tons of junk into the baltic sea that sounds right
I can relate to all of the round ship theories. One thing that perplexes me in all of this is the fact of the marked disturbance of the seabed. What are the possibilities that a decommissioned ship would cause the stria and the distance of disturbance? Marks as such would have had to have been created with such velocity and force on impact to have created them so as to overcome the resistance of water. Think about it Have you ever slapped water? Resistance will always slow inertia to overcome resistance velocity and force must be great. If these marks are the result of an object impacting the seabed the distance suggests that it cannot have been done by the intentional sinking of a ship. Just a thought!
I’ll make one last gasp on this one before I’m beating a dead horse
The only way I could see those marks occurring on the sea floor if it was round ship would be from current drag after it was on the bottom with little resistance or it is on a slope. This has been shown to occur in major current belts of the large oceans where ships once were but over time the have moved with the currents, other wise it would have to be a impact like you say and my feelings are the same. I did as much reading as I can do and it looks like ten of those ships were to be built minus the yacht and two were only ever commissioned and none were known to be in the Baltic Sea on any records and I don’t think they could have survived the trip. Perhaps Han Solo is perserved in Carbonite, I just hope he brought the Wookie along
this is possibly the biggest event in history or the biggest fizzer for 2012. fingers crossed!
I am thinking meteorite or other space junk as Dennis Asberg himself has suggested in previous articles. I thought of the current factor myself and quickly shot that down due to the fact that apparently this area of the Baltic is said to be static in relation to current. I have to believe this is true as current over time would erode evidence of impact and create a sedimentary layer over what we are seeing making it harder to detect. We shall see, Ocean x is awful quiet right now I believe if it was another wreck we would have known by now.
if it is something amazing, our government will torpedo it.
is just a water balloon.
no its the hatch of the reactor from tjernobyl
Get a grip people. Wait till proven one way or another. I personally think that they lowered it last year. Depending on the real size and what it is made it could be dragged across seafloor.
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This certenly is the year of revelation! the baltic sea object `the attacumba humanoid! I cant wait