Co-founder of the OceanX team Peter Lindberg hosted an impromptu question and answer session on the group’s Facebook page only a few hours ago.
It seems the more answers we get the more questions we have on this most peculiar object. We are compiling a full report to follow soon, but until then reproduced below is a statement from Peter Lindberg on his own thoughts regarding the object.
The anomaly is essentially mushroom shaped, with the “stalk” or pillar rising some 8 metres out of the seabed. The dome that sits on top is only 1-4 metres wider than the pillar. Illustrations to follow in an upcoming article.
"The Meringue" - Photo shows a large formation lying ON TOP of the main anomaly with divers line visible.
“Hello friends, I have not written anything here in a while, can maybe be explained by the fact that I have really been out there… I will drop you some of my believes:”
1. I do not believe that the circle is a wreckage of an flying craft from WWII till rescent time (or from some thousands of year back for that matter).
2. I do not believe the circle is a wreckage of any kind of known floating vessels from the past or from modern time.
3. I do not believe the circle is a construction made by someone after the ice age (submarine bases etc included).
4. I do believe the surface of the circle is made of mineral.
5. I do believe that the surface looks like concrete through the ROV camera but I do not believe it’s made of concrete.
6. I do belive that the very strait lines and angular formations we can see on the side scan sonar image from last year really excists. The odd thing is that I thought, before this expedition that when we could get close these shapes maybe should appear not being so straight as on the side scan sonar image, in reality they are even straighter! It really looks like constructed parts on the circle.
7. I do believe it might have been volcanic activity in the area and even on (or in) the circle after the ice age, or before, but then it do not fit with what we know about the ice age.
8. I do believe that the circle “rests” on top of what looks like an pillar of rock, raising approx 8 meters above the surrounding bottom. The circle it self appears to be approx 4 meters thick. In other words, the top of the circle raises 12 meters above the surrounding bottom.
9. I do believe we must find out on the next expedition if the circle and the pillar are fixed in one piece or if they are separated in some way.
10. I do belive that the path, or the track, is a ridge raising slowly up from the bottom to a hight of approx 8 meters above the surrounding bottom. I also belive that the ridge is made of softer material than the pilar and the circle.
What I do not believe because I know, is the fact that we found a round hole approx 25 cm in diamater going straight into the surface of the circle, how odd is not that? How deep? No idea, we just saw it for some seconds before we decided to back off to preserv the visibility for the divers that was going down later on. They did not find the hole though. It might be some more holes, at this moment we do not know.
Well some comments on that before I continue with some more belives. Cheers
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This has been certainly not what anyone was waiting, nevertheless, its almost better than a UFO, a real puzzle.
Sounds very much like a small igneous intrusion, probably a laccolith of granitic composition. They can intrude into rock strata, then become exposed a long time afterwards by normal erosional processes. The laccolith would be more resistant to erosion than the surrounding material. It may have intruded a long time, perhaps millions of years, before the ice sheets arrived: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbI0BFJHqXa7l5tOVvOEUKPq9AL9vkFp_iXzi8T6_GgO4xZ4rAAA
Yeah, you’re right: “I do belive that the very strait lines and angular formations we can see on the side scan sonar image from last year really excists. The odd thing is that I thought, before this expedition that when we could get close these shapes maybe should appear not being so straight as on the side scan sonar image, in reality they are even straighter! It really looks like constructed parts on the circle.”
Laccoliths do this. Oh wait, nope, they don’t.
Ok, but perhaps what is a laccolith has been altered by man in the more recent past by carving into it, and shaping the stone? The lake could have formed later as glacial ice melted, covering the object. I’m merely making a suggestion based on what is practically F.A evidence, other than one rather unhelpful photo thus far. Unfortunately, people like yourself are too unintelligent to think of more than one possibility, and would rather troll than making any sort of intelligent contribution.
I would like to know what he meant whe he said he believed the object to be made of “mineral”. A mineral could be virtually any innorganic substance. Surely, he meant something a more specific; Perhaps the word “mineral” has another connotation in his language.
Anyone care to guess?
I have not seen the following question addressed: why is there such disparity between last year’s sonar side scan picture ( the Millenium Falcon image) and the actual photo/description of mushroom shaped object?
Jrblaw,
I don’t think that any of the available pictures are broad enough to be compared to the sonar images. We are only seeing small sections of the object. Also, the verbal descriptions do seem to be similar to the original sonar images: large, circular, visible lines, etc.
Thanks and fair point. However, the millennium falcon has distinct “cut out” of what otherwise would be a symmetric circle. The mushroom is described so far as “circular.” I would love Peter/OceanX to clarify this and to let us know when we might expect the results of the analysis being conducted of the samples brought to the surface.
Side-scan sonar is not known to be a good indicator of detail. In fact, I always assumed that the “cut out” was a typical glitch in this type of sonar imaging. The general shape of the object is circular, which was confirmed through first hand examination.
Several questions I hope someone could please answer:
Does anyone know of any comments by geologists or other scientists on their interpretation of the mushroom finding?
Does anyone know which scientists are currently examining the sample taken to the surface?
Does anyone know when the expedition is scheduled to return to the site of the anomaly?
Does anyone believe the mushroom is from an extraterrestrial origin or design?
My geological interpretation (from the available evidence, i.e. not much!): Sounds very much like a small igneous intrusion, probably a laccolith of granitic composition. They can intrude into rock strata, then become exposed a long time afterwards by normal erosional processes. The laccolith would be more resistant to erosion than the surrounding material. Perhaps the laccolith has been altered by man in the more recent past by carving into it, and shaping the stone? The lake could have formed later as glacial ice melted, covering the object.
That was pretty much my thoughts all along. The ice age covered much of the land with water and people were living at places under water. I’m no geologist but 1 possibility could be that this was altered by people at some point before the ice age and was covered over when it melted. Perhaps it is hollow and may explain the edges we see on the sonar. The man in the mushroom ? seems kind of to odd to be natural formed but like the previous comment maybe people aided in shaping it. I would put money on it that people were there at some point because it would have been a clear landmark and I would think more then one culture. This is a subject that history doesn’t yet fully except and that is that another age of man is buried under the ocean and history that is forgotten is only now being found. If this is the case then artifacts and all kinds of things may be lying around and perhaps the path is a road leading to it. Not really far fetched as it sounds.
Sure Keira, you’re absolutely right. Sea levels today are approximately 120 metres higher than they were at the peak of the last ice age 18,000 years ago prior to the Holocene.
I’ve actually had to correct people’s theories in the past because of this exact matter, where they were claiming, for example, that ancient archeological tool artifacts on Crete circa 130,000 years old, provided evidence that the toolmakers must have arrived by boat! I had to point out that at this time, Europe was at the end of a long period of GLACIATION that occured during the Pleistocene Ice Age. The sea levels may have been 100s of metres lower than they are today, and thus there may have been a land bridge connecting what is NOW Crete to the mainland: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/science/16archeo.html
Another example, the Cosquer Cave, near Marseille, France contains cave art discovered by divers that has been radiometrically dated to 25,000 BCE. The caves are ~30m below sea level, so were obviously accessed by ancient man at a time when sea levels were much lower than today during the last ice age.
I’d be more than happy to go out to this location to conduct a thorough scientific investigation. It would make for a great project over the summer. It’s more more likely to be a terrestrial phenomena that has been subject to alteration by man in the more recent past in my opinion. From the small amount of footage and photographs I’ve seen, there’s no evidence for any more exotic theories.
quote… ” people were living at places ” now ” under water
Update from Dennis:
- We’ve dived there twice, and the question mark has become so much bigger now, says Dennis Åsberg.
The area is a perfectly round plate with 180 meters in circumference, and therefore they thought at first that it was the traces of a meteor. But there are 1,500 meters long slot in the bottom front of the object – and they have also discovered right angles, walls with perfectly smooth surfaces and cavities – as corridors within the article.
- When we went back and saw those walls were straight and smooth, then it was weird, like in a science-fiction film, said Dennis Åsberg at the Ocean X-teams who are about to explore the unknown object again.
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=94&artikel=5165975
…I smell a rat.
We keep hearing descriptions of an 8 meter “stalk” upon which this dome rests. Are they any available pictures that actually show this? So far, none of the pictures I’ve seen depict any of the more interesting features that have been described. Very frustrating.
Hi,
There is few pics and no large view pics because at this depth in the baltic sea, the distance of sight is only 1 meter. For large views we have to wait the 3D sonar images.
C’mon.. separate yourself from what you know from your academic learning and / or your personal experience. Then take another look at the photos, illustrations and textual accounts. Then ask yourself again, how can this *not* be made or constructed by man (or otherwise)? I.E. How can this be natural?? Just keeping it real brothers and sisters.